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Marres

G-FGC6628

MARRES - MARES

G - FGC6629 / FGC6634
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Mares

G-Y89939

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Some explanation in advance

To understand this page you need some knowledge of genetic genealogy.
On this website you can find this in: Genetic Genealogy.

The family clade

Families are characterized by their own SNPs that they do not share with related families. These are therefore the last acquired SNPs. The age of a family is estimated by the number of acquired SNPs.

Our family DNA has been investigated in several laboratories and studied by two different scientists, the results of whom differ slightly.

Ray Banks from the International Organization of Genetic Genealogy, ISOGG chose from the range of acquired SNPs as our flag bearer FGC6629 and estimates the time of creation of our clade family at 1500 up to 2500 years ago. So that is in Roman times. (1a)

The scientific department of the company Y-Full chose FGC6634. They estimate the time of emergence much more recently and 1200 years ago, that is in the Middle Ages, the time of the Carolingians. (1b)

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The Moorrees family, from Eijsden near Maastricht, is, according to a genetic test done by one member of their family, not related to us.

For related families we have to go back a thousand years further in time. This is described in the Benelux clade.

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The ancestor of our famiky is a man we know as Morees and also as Morech . He was the landowner in the village of Sussen near Maastricht. In the year 1388 he is mentioned for the first time, that is after his death. His widow then pays the mandatory landowners tax to the Hospice of the city of Tongeren.

Charter Boxberch

His son Johan Marres, who is mentioned in 1399 as landowner in the Vronendal in Zussen next to the land of Boxberg, acquired according to a charter dated July 6, 1403 an old stock of the knights of Boxberch in Zussen.

Johan had seven children who reached adulthood. His son Johan Mees is the ancestor of a Mees family. They inhabit the Boxberch until shortly after 1495. In the year 1500, the property is in the hands of Johan Tertres.

DNA research can show for people with the name Mees whether they belong to this family branch.

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His second son Reyner Marres I is the ancestor of the Marres family and for more than a century, that is three generations, the Family lives as members of the Drapers guild and merchants in Maastricht. Not much is known about this Reyner than that he was combative and had to promise not to use violence.

The next generation is Johan Marres II, dean of the drapers company and captain of the city guard and also known as a trader. He bought a country house in Heukelom towards the end of the fifteenth century and was then named after this place.

At the sons of his son, Reijner Marres II, generation IV (1490-1552) the family splits into the two branches Marres and Mares. So he is what in the genetic-genealogical literature is called the Most Recent joint ancestor, MRCA, of the two family branches.

Maastrichts charter betreffende belasting vrijdom voor de gebroeders Matthijs, Jan en Reijner Marres, 8 augustus 1526

Reyner Marres II, has three sons, who were merchants, according to a Maastricht charter from the year 1526, that the free trade in Brabant confirmed for the three brothers Matthijs, Jan and Reijner Marres III van Heukelom.

Reijner Marres III (1490-1552), is the most recent common ancestor (MRCA) of the two family branches.

Since the clade came into existence, Reyner has received 10 SNPs including FGC6629 over time.

The Familial Y-DNA clade
FGC6629

Each of these two branches get some more, the defining SNP of the branch Marres becomes FGC6628, and of the branch Mares BY89939. (1)

split
Matthijs Marres, from Heukelom (1525-1612)

G-FGC6628

Reyner Mares, from Fall (1530-1580)

G-Y89939

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The Familial Haplotypes

This are the results of the Y-DNA tests with 37, later 112 STR markers.
We call these series haplotypes.

Dys markers on a blue box   -   dys values in yellow   -   One genetic step in fawn   -   two steps in maroon.

 Most récents Common ancestors    Name   393 390 19a 19b 391 385
a
385
b
426 388 439 389
i
392 389
ii
458 459
a
459
b
455 454 447 437 448 449 464
a
464
b
464
c
464
d
460 GATA
  h4  
YCA
  IIa  
YCA
  IIb  
456 607 576 570 CDY
  a  
CDY
  b  
442 438
 Reyner Marres 
  ±1490 - ±1560  
 J.W. Marres 
 1732 - 1794  
  B. Marres   14 22 15 15 10 13 14 11 12 11 12 11 28 16 9 9 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 13 14 14 11 11 20 20 15 14 17 18 33 40 11 10
  G. Marres   14 22 15 15 10 13 14 11 12 11 12 11 28 16 9 9 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 13 14 14 11 11 20 20 15 14 17 17 33 39 11 10
Peter Mares
1615 - 1686
 A. Mares  14 23 15 15 10 13 14 11 12 11 12 11 28 16 9 9 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 13 14 14 11 10 20 20 15 14 17 18 33 38 11 12
G. Mares 14 22 15 15 10 13 14 11 12 11 12 11 28 16 9 9 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 13 14 14 11 10 20 20 15 14 17 18 32 38 11 11

The duplication of marker 19 in 19a and 19b, both with the same values, was established for the first time with special techniques in Eugene (Boed) Marres DNA sample. The repetition of this study at another laboratory was unfortunately unable to confirm this result. (2)

Genetic Distance

Genetic distance is the total number of STR markers that are different.

TMRCA

The time to most recent Common Ancestor (TMRCA), is calculated on the basis of the genetic distance. Each marker has its own average mutation rate, but when it concerns many markers one can assume an average mutation time. With 37 markers we take one genetic distance for every seven generations. We used Dean Macgee's Y-DNA Comparison Utility of ISOGG. (3)

Genetic Distance
ID Mrr B Mrr G Mr G Mr A
Marres-B 38 2 4 4
Marres-G 2 38 5 5
Mares-G 4 5 38 3
Mares-A 4 5 3 38

Used is the infinite allele mutation model.
The number of markers is in green.

Time to the most recent ancestor - Genetical
ID Mrr B Mrr G Mr G Mr A
Marres-B 38 210 360 360
Marres-G 210 38 450 450
Mares-G 360 450 38 300
Mares-A 360 450 360 38

By FTDNA used mutation rate is 0.0054.
probability is 50% that the TMRCA is no longer than longer then indicated .
average generation is is 32 years.

Time to the most recent ancestor - Genealogical
ID Mrr B Mrr G Mr G Mr A
Marres-B 38 188 456 456
Marres-G 188 38 456 456
Mares-G 456 456 38 330
Mares-A 456 456 330 38

The year of birth of ancestor Marres/Mares is 1490
The year of birth of ancestor Mares is 1615
The year of birth of ancestor Marres is 1759
The Average years of births of the paticipants is 1946.

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Detailed haplotypes of Marres and Mares

Dys markers on a blue box   -   dys values in yellow   -   One genetic step in fawn   -   two steps in maroon.

393 390 19a 19b 391 385a 385b 426 388 439 389i 392 389ii 458 459a 459b 455 454 447 437 448 449 464a 464b 464c 464d 460 GATA
h4
YCA
IIa
YCA
IIb
456 607 576 570 CDY
a
CDY
b
442 438
  B. Marres   14 22 15 15 10 13 14 11 12 11 12 11 28 16 09 09 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 13 14 14 11 11 20 20 15 14 17 18 33 40 11 10
  G. Mares   14 22 15 15 10 13 14 11 12 11 12 11 28 16 09 09 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 13 14 14 11 10 20 20 15 14 17 18 32 38 11 10
  A. Mares   14 23 15 15 10 13 14 11 12 11 12 11 28 16 09 09 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 13 14 14 11 10 20 20 15 14 17 18 33 38 11 12
 
531 578 395
S1a
395
S1b
590 537 641 472 406
S1
511 425 413a 413b 557 594 436 490 534 450 444 481 520 446 617 568 487 572 640 492 565
 B. Marres  11 08 16 16 08 11 10 08 11 10 12 21 22 15 10 12 12 16 08 12 24 20 15 13 11 13 10 11 11 12
 G. Mares  11 08 16 16 08 11 10 08 11 10 12 21 22 15 10 12 12 16 08 12 24 20 15 13 11 13 10 11 11 12
 A. Mares  11 08 16 16 08 11 10 08 11 10 12 21 22 15 10 12 12 16 08 12 24 20 15 13 11 13 10 11 11 12
 
710 485 632 495 540 714 716 717 505 556 549 589 522 494 533 636 575 638 462 452 445 Y-GATA
A10
463 441 Y-GGAAT
1B0
7
525 712 593 650 532 715 504 513 561 552 726 635 587 643 497 510 434 461 435
 B. Marres  40 15 08 15 11 22 28 21 12 11 13 13 11 09 10 11 10 11 14 27 10 12 22 13 11 10 24 15 18 14 23 18 14 16 26 12 21 18 11 14 18 09 12 11
 G. Mares  40 15 08 15 11 22 27 21 12 11 13 13 11 09 10 11 10 11 13 28 10 12 22 13 11 10 23 15 18 14 23 18 13 16 26 12 21 18 11 14 18 09 12 11
 A. Mares  40 15 08 15 11 22 27 21 12 11 13 13 11 09 10 11 10 11 13 28 10 12 22 13 11 10 23 15 18 14 23 18 14 17 26 12 21 18 11 14 18 09 12 11
Résumé

Three members of the family, two of the Marres branch and one of the Mares branch had their haplotype measured with 500 STR markers.

When we first consider the standard number of 112 STR markers, the two members of the Mares branch have a different value for five markers. The phenomenon that there is a difference of 2 units in one marker is not counted, we still call this a one-off mutation. The genetic distance between them is therefore 5.

FTDNA says about this: Most matches at this level are related as 12th cousins or more recently, and over half will be 7th cousins or closer.
Their common ancestor is Peter Mares who lived back 10 generations ago. They are therefore 9th cousins and they are so in the middle of the expected area.

One member of the Marres branch has been tested. With Guus Mares he has a genetic distance of 8 and 9 with André.

FTDNA says about a genetic distance of 8 measured at 111 markers: Over half of matches at this level are related as 12th cousins or more recently. Most matches at this level are related as 18th cousins or more recently.
About a genetic Distance of 9: Over half of matches at this level are related as 15th cousins or closer.

Genealogically the two branches have a first common ancestor who lived 14 generations ago. The living members are therefore 13th cousins. The genetic distance is entirely in line with expectations. ( 4 )

With a Y-500 test, 500 STRs have been tested. The results will be known by the end of the year 2019.

NOTA BENE

SNPs are used for genetically genealogical lineage time and not STRs because it is generally recognized that timing with SNPs over longer periods of time, namely a thousand years and more, appears to be reliable.

Our timeline clearly shows that this reliability leaves much to be desired in the shorter term. The most commonly used Y-tree is that of YFull. This gives as time to the most recent common ancestor (TMRCA) 175 years.

In the determination, they start from the year 1950 as the o year (the average date of birth of a genealogist). With their calculation for our family the year 1775. Our most recent common ancestor is Reyner Marres, van Heukelom, born in the year 1490. This is quite a difference, namely more than two and a half times longer.

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Mitochondrial DNA

In the mitochondria of the body cells of all living things there is a relatively small amount of DNA. This comes from the female egg cell. It is thus passed on by the mother to sons and daughters, but only daughters pass it on, the sons do not. This Mt-DNA is determined in our family member E.C.W.L. Boed Marres.

The ascending line goes from his mother over the families: Franquinet, Tielens, Corten, Becker, Geurts, Meyers, Peussens, Claessens, Deumans, Brants, Limpens and Geelen. The oldest known foremother is Margaretha Geelen, born around the year 1570 who lived in Schinnen, South Limburg, 15 kilometers northeast of Maastricht.

Mt DNA is also divided into haplogroups by analogy with the Y-DNA, although they are biochemically rather different. It has been tested at Full Genomes, at National Geographic in the GENO2 beta project, and at 23andMe. Genografic gives as result: haplogroup N1a'd'e'l. The companies 23andMe and FTDNA appoint him differently as: I1a1. These seem to have different results, but this are only other codes.

The furthest is now YFull: I1a1a*, formed 2100 ybp. From a great mother about 75 generations bach with dezcendants now living on both sides of the western Mediterranean and the coastal areas of western and Northern Europe, till in Russia.

Mt-DNA haplogroup I1a1 is most common in Germany and Switzerland, in Eastern Europe such as the Czech Republic, Poland, Estonia, in the Balkans in Slovenia, Bosnia, Macedonia, and Croatia, also many in Lebanon and in Ukraine.

MT-DNA Tree
Mt tree, journal.pone.0208829.g001

The beginning of the Mitochodrial Tree.

PhyloTree.org - mtDNA tree Build 17 (18 Feb 2016) subtree N1

The place of the Marres family in the Mitochodrial family tree is indicated dark brown

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AUTOSOMAL DNA

Autosomal DNA is a term used in genetic genealogy to describe DNA which is inherited from the autosomal chromosomes. An autosome is any of the numbered chromosomes, as opposed to the sex chromosomes. Humans have 22 pairs of autosomes and one pair of sex chromosomes (the X chromosome and the Y chromosome). With a number of companies I have this determined on ethnic components. The results do not differ much from each other and can be found in the notes. Here follows the most recent one (5)

LM GENETICS
B.M. K36 Ancestry Report Geografcal 2018-800

With the mouse on the map there is an enlargement and green dot on Maastricht.

My genome has common genes with mainly West Germans, starting with the people of Hessen and Baden-Württemberg, then mainly South Germany and Switzerland, followed by the Walloons, Northern French, Lorraine, Flemings and finally Englishmen from the South-East.

In the first millennium of our era and perhaps even before, many peoples went from East to West Europe. And many residents of what is now the Netherlands, Belgium, Westphalia and Saxony went on to Great Britain. Many of course also lagged behind.

My ancestors came all from regions more southerly than Maastricht. Striking is the lower share of Limburgers. Brabanders are poorly represented and the other Dutch are hardly there. When many use their genome for research in this way, this will make European migration history more clear.

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GEDMATCH

This is a group of geneticists who carry out the autosomatic tests for the large companies. They searched for origins from thousands of years ago with the original inhabitants of Eurasia.

The oldest are the Altaic natives who stayed here on the tundra during the ice ages. After the ice ages around 10,000 years ago the hunter-gathererers who repopulated the European mainland from their refugia on the Mediterranean. The Neolithic farmers came from Anatolia 7,000 thousand years ago, and the Corded ware people Iron Age people arrived from the Caucasus 5000 years ago. The Huns also have some left traces.

Etnische herkomst B. Marres, Bron: GedMatch

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Gedmatch compared our family DNA with archaeological remains of hunter-gatherers and the first European Neolithic farmers. Below is a figure with the results in order of the established relationship with whom we share at least one CentiMorgan, a measure of kinship. (6)

In archaeogenetics, 1 cM is the lower limit for kinship. The higher this number is, the greater the kinship, so with more and thicker lines.

In the table below we are the most related to two Neolithic persons who lived 7200 and 3200 years ago in what is now Hungary. They are closely followed by a 7000-year-old discovery from Stuttgart, then a Luxemburger from 8000 years ago. Then a 45,000 year old find from Siberia and a North American Indian from 12,000 years back. His ancestors must not have crossed the Beringbridge not long before that time.

Striking is the large genetic distance to English, Scandinavians and Spaniards Here we seem to have hardly any common ancestors. The least we are related to a Brit - at the very bottom - with whom we share segments of 1 or 2 cM in five places.

GEDmatch-1cM-c

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Neanderthal genes

A nice test is the presence of Neanderthal genes. Our quantity is estimated, depending on the testing laboratory, between 2.8% and 4.8%, of which about 2/3 come from Neanderthals and 1/3 from another pre-modern human species, the Denisovans.

schedels noderne mens en Neanderthaler

Two Skulls, one of a modern man and one of a Neanderthal in Museum of Natural History in Cleveland.
I applied the bimaxillary prognathism to the Neanderthal.
When the mouse is on the picture you will see the original image (7)

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The DNA of the Marres family

At the International Congress for
Genealogical and Heraldic Sciences held in Maastricht in 2012.

This Congress was opened by Dr. W. Penninx with al lecture the variants in the DNA of the Marres family. He discussed the variants in the Y-DNA of the various branches of the Marres family and how small mutations in the Y-DNA can show near and distant family relationships, which is impossible to do with only genealogical and historical research.

He shows familial relationships that go back to the Middle Ages and even to the Neolithic. The results of the DNA tests in the Marres family serve as an example.

The motivation for launching the genetic study was our goal the expected but not yet proven genealogical relationship between the Dutch Marres and Mares families, if not to prove then at least with a maximum of security to make plausible.

Genetic Variation in the Netherlands in the Last 2000 Years-a

Genetic Variation in the Last 2000 Years

It has always been assumed that the Maastricht families Marres and Mares were two branches of one family. We were able to demonstrate this relationship with DNA research.

When this goal was achieved, we used the genetic knowledge built up by this to find out our family history until prehistoric times. With the collected facts we hope to contribute not only to the national history of our country but also to the European and world history.

Many publications have appeared in the genealogical and heraldic magazines about the Marres family. In one of them, De Nederlandsche Leeuw of 1990, the common origin of the Marres and Mares family has been made plausible. (8)

The rise of the DNA research in this century offered a wonderful method to prove the supposed relationship. Four men from the Marres and Mares families participated in this genetic family research and did DNA tests: Boed and Gilbert Marres, and André and (the late) Guus Mares and participated in several projects. (9)


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