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G - FGC6618Benelux clade |
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* The Benelux cladeG-FGC6618This clade arose 7,500 years ago. He has not made any side branches for 6,000 years.
He is the common ancestorFrom the following families: Marres and Slootmaekers in Maastricht, and Nolet in Namur. (1) He probably came from a region in or near the Empire and signed on in a Roman legion. After their service, veterans were given a piece of land, usually in their country of origin when in the empire, otherwise in the region where they had last served. In the Meuse Valley, after the repopulation of these regions after a total destruction between 250 and 350 AD, Roman garrisons were stationed, such as at Tongeren and Namur. That is south of the Heirweg that ran from Cologne to England via Boulogne sur Mer. Just below, a century later, the current language border came into existence. To the north of this road lived the Germanic Franks, to the south the Romanized Franks. The three families live on the northern border of the Empire. We wonder how it is possible that all the side branches that have been there naturally during these many thousands of years are extinct. We can only understand that when our ancestors have lived in a small, highly isolated, inaccessible area. Considering their previous origins, we can think of a mountain valley in Anatolia, present-day Turkey or something to the east in the mountain areas around Mesopotamia, in today's Iran. * These three branches
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FGC34750 The Belgian family
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FGC6634 The Dutch family
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FGC42426 De Belgian family
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Divided in 1490
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Marres
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Mares
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These are there HaplotypesDYS markers in blue field - DYS values in light yellow field - one genetic step higher in fawn - two steps higher in maroon - one step lower in light green - two steps lower in green.
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STR marker values tested at Full Genomes and determined by YSEQof the three Y15220 : Marres – Nolet – Slootmaekers |
DYS markers in blue - DYS values in yellow - Not tested or no results in White.
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NAME | 393 | 390 | 19 | 391 | 385 a |
385 b |
426 | 388 | 439 | 389 i |
392 | 389 ii |
458 | 459 a |
459 b |
455 | 454 | 447 | 437 | 448 | 449 | 464 a |
464 b |
464 c |
464 d |
460 | GATA h4 |
YCA IIa |
YCA IIb |
456 | 607 | 576 | 570 | CDY a |
CDY b |
442 | 438 | 531 | 578 | 395 S1a |
395 S1b |
590 | 537 | 641 | 472 | 406 S1 |
511 | 425 | 413 a |
413 b |
557 | 594 | 436 | 534 | 450 | 444 | 481 | 520 | 446 | 617 | 568 | 487 | 572 | 640 | 492 | 565 |
Marres | 14 | 22 | 15 | 10 | 13 | 14 | 11 | 12 | 11 | 12 | 11 | 28 | 16 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 23 | 16 | 22 | 29 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 20 | 20 | 15 | 14 | 17 | 18 | 33 | 40 | 11 | 10 | 11 | 8 | 16 | 16 | 8 | 11 | 10 | 8 | 11 | 10 | 12 | 21 | 22 | 15 | 10 | 12 | 16 | 8 | 12 | 24 | 20 | 15 | 15 | 11 | 13 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 12 |
Nolet | 22 | 15 | 10 | 13 | 14 | 11 | 12 | 11 | 12 | 11 | 28 | 16 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 16 | 22 | 29 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 11 | 12 | 20 | 20 | 15 | 14 | 17 | 18 | 11 | 10 | 8 | 16 | 16 | 8 | 11 | 10 | 8 | 11 | 10 | 0 | 20 | 22 | 15 | 10 | 16 | 8 | 12 | 23g | 15 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 11 | ||||||||||
Slootmaekers | 14 | 22 | 15 | 10 | 13 | 14 | 11 | 12 | 11 | 12 | 11 | 28 | 18 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 23 | 14 | 22 | 29 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 14 | 11 | 12 | 20 | 20 | 15 | 14 | 17 | 18 | 33 | 37 | 11 | 10 | 11 | 8 | 16 | 16 | 8 | 11 | 11 | 8 | 11 | 10 | 21 | 22 | 14 | 10 | 12 | 17 | 8 | 12 | 23g | 20 | 15 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 12 |
Full Genomes | 393 | 390 | 19 | 391 | 385 a |
385 b |
426 | 388 | 439 | 389 i |
392 | 389 ii |
458 | 459 a |
459 b |
455 | 454 | 447 | 437 | 448 | 449 | 464 a |
464 b |
464 c |
464 d |
460 | GATA h4 |
YCA IIa |
YCA IIb |
456 | 607 | 576 | 570 | CDY a |
CDY b |
442 | 438 | 531 | 578 | 395 S1a |
395 S1b |
590 | 537 | 641 | 472 | 406 S1 |
511 | 425 | 413 a |
413 b |
557 | 594 | 436 | 534 | 450 | 444 | 481 | 520 | 446 | 617 | 568 | 487 | 572 | 640 | 492 | 565 |
Ancestral | 14 | 22 | 15 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 11 | 12 | 11 | 28 | 16 | 11 | 11 | 23 | 16 | 22 | 28 | 11 | 11 | 20 | 20 | 15 | 14 | 17 | 18 | 11 | 10 | 11 | 8 | 8 | 11 | 10 | 8 | 11 | 10 | 12 | 14 | 10 | 12 | 16 | 8 | 12 | 23g | 20 | 15 | 13 | 11 | 13 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 12 | ||||||||||||||
Pre-ancestral | 13 | 22 | 15 | 10 | 11 | 13 | 11 | 13 | 11 | 28 | 16 | 11 | 11 | 23 | 16 | 21 | 28 | 10 | 11 | 20 | 20 | 15 | 14 | 17 | 18 | 11 | 10 | 11 | 8 | 8 | 11 | 10 | 8 | 11 | 10 | 12 | 14 | 10 | 12 | 16 | 8 | 13 | 23g | 21 | 14 | 13 | 11 | 14 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 12 |
* The STR Tree of the Benelux group![]() |
(3)
In the Marres family it was first established that a STR marker can have a double value. With them it is DYS19=15-15. (3) In the family Marres G and B have a common ancestor five generations ago. They both have one single mutation. Expect is also 1 to 2. In the family Mares, A and G have a common ancestor 10 generations ago. A has 4 mutations and G has 3. It is expected here 3 or 4. This fits nicely. The branches Marres and Mares have a common ancestor 15 generations ago. The number of mutations is, respectively, B 2, G 2, A 4, and G 3 mutations. It is anticipated here 5. This is clearly at all less then expected. The families Marres, Nolet and Slootmaekers have a common ancestor that lived between 30 to 60 generations ago. Counting STR mutations over such a long time is irrelevant because of convergence, what means parallel and reverse mutations. We will see a seemingly small number of mutations and a seemingly minor genetic distance. |
Genetic distance |
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ID | Mrr B | Mrr G | Mr G | Mr A | Nolet | Sltm. |
Marres-B | 38 | 2 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 7 |
Marres-G | 2 | 38 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 7 |
Mares-G | 5 | 5 | 38 | 3 | 5 | 8 |
Mares-A | 6 | 6 | 3 | 38 | 6 | 9 |
Nolet | 4 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 38 | 5 |
Slootmaekers | 7 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 5 | 38 |
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In black the Genetic Distance. In green the number of markers used. We can see that using STR mutations are useful for dating genetic distance between samples up to about 1000 years ago, but earlier than this, accuracy falls away, and using SNPs becomes the more reliable method. |
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Writer: E.C.W.L. (Boed) Marres, Amsterdam |
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